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Harry_sz
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 20:22    Post subject: Window motor Reply with quote

My right side window wouldn't go up and down anymore and even after spraying the windowrubbers richly with lubricant it still didn't move an inch.

So I opened up the door to see if there was a cable broken of something but I couldn't find anything.





I pushed the down-button on the switch and hit the electric motor a couple of times with a spanner and it suddenly came to life. The window went down slowly.
After that I sprayed the rubbers some more with lubricant and put it up and down about 20 times. It isn't fast, but it would do I thought.



5 minutes later it was stuck again, so I think the electric motor has to be changed...

Is this the same as in the Alfa 75 and can I change it without screwing up the alignment of my window? I just want to remove the motor and put a new one in or get this one repaired if possible.

Is there someone here who has done this job before?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 23:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eper (2008) says the motors are p/n 60509543 (SN) and 60509542 (DS) with only the SN being available in 2008.

But interestingly the motor is shared with Alfa 164 (front AND rear doors):


(ALFAROMEO) - K0 164 (1987-1992)
(ALFAROMEO) - K2 164 TURBO BZ.(1987-1992)
(ALFAROMEO) - M9 "S.Z." (1989-1991)
(ALFAROMEO) - R3 "R.Z." (1992-1993)

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aha okay! Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 19:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

(SN) and (DS) means sinstra and destra, or left and right.
this means only the left is still available?!

Maybe only the carbon rods of that motor have the be replaced.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 23:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

stef wrote:
...this means only the left is still available?!


Yes, but as my Eper is from 2008 I bet it's now not possible to order one at all. Sad

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 14:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing is available I noticed. Smile
But with some luck I could buy a complete mechanism New Old Stock from a specialist in the Netherlands!!!

I bought it last friday, took the afternoon off and got it in the car the same afternoon.
So it works again!!

I am getting my old one refurbished . Only the electric motor is gone, the mechanism still looks like new.


Pictures are here :
http://www.gummen.org/forum/showthread.php?1774-Alfa-Romeo-SZ-(ES30)/page3

and here :
http://www.gummen.org/forum/showthread.php?1774-Alfa-Romeo-SZ-(ES30)/page4


The job is less difficult than you might think!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 0:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good news!

Interesting to see the inside of the door, I need to search out an annoying rattle so will have to do similar Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

It isn't difficult, just be carefull with removing the trim.

Those plastic plugs can break and sometimes have broken in the past.
But just follow the steps from the technical handbook and you'll be fine.
If you don't have the handbook, let me know, I can scan some (not all Smile pages for you.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 21:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be fine thanks...those little clips are very familiar Laughing

Also got the workshop manual...which is actually very good!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 20:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took both my door panels off this summer to clean and condition the leather properly - what a pain, I'm never doing it again. You need double-jointed fingers and wrists and the patience of a saint...
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Harry_sz
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you have to have flexible wrists Smile
But it is possible if you take the time and do it right.
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